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Titel: JMP 50w clone AFD tone #36 mod, for slash fans.
Beitrag von: dukeamps am 21.01.2012 12:15
Hi Guys, here is a clip of a JMP 50w clone i built, with my #36 mod, what is also interesting about this amp it has a IGOT-JMP50 (Drake 784-139)
output transformer, great product.

link,   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPILyCYZZNw&feature=youtu.be

Cheers

Nigel   
Titel: Re: JMP 50w clone AFD tone #36 mod, for slash fans.
Beitrag von: geowicht am 21.01.2012 19:33
Hi Nigel,
really awesome sound  and great player
 :devil:
 
Titel: Re: JMP 50w clone AFD tone #36 mod, for slash fans.
Beitrag von: dukeamps am 22.01.2012 12:56
Hi Nigel,
really awesome sound  and great player
 :devil:

Cheers geowicht, thanks for your great feedback :)

Nigel
Titel: Re: JMP 50w clone AFD tone #36 mod, for slash fans.
Beitrag von: wholelottanoise am 22.01.2012 21:53
Great sound, Nigel!  :danke:
Titel: Re: JMP 50w clone AFD tone #36 mod, for slash fans.
Beitrag von: dukeamps am 23.01.2012 09:28
Great sound, Nigel!  :danke:

Cheers wholelottanoise, thanks for your great feedback :)

Have you any new clips?

Nigel

Titel: Re: JMP 50w clone AFD tone #36 mod, for slash fans.
Beitrag von: wholelottanoise am 23.01.2012 09:48
Nope, didn't have the time lately. Also, the guy i borrowed the recording interface from moved to the Netherlands :P Gotta buy one myself ::)

But the London City with #36 mod and added clean channel is still my main amp in the band.

Cheers
Kilian
Titel: Re: JMP 50w clone AFD tone #36 mod, for slash fans.
Beitrag von: dukeamps am 23.01.2012 11:26
Nope, didn't have the time lately. Also, the guy i borrowed the recording interface from moved to the Netherlands :P Gotta buy one myself ::)

But the London City with #36 mod and added clean channel is still my main amp in the band.

Cheers
Kilian

Hi Kilian, clean channel that sounds great, you should have a great rig there.

Nigel
Titel: Re: JMP 50w clone AFD tone #36 mod, for slash fans.
Beitrag von: wholelottanoise am 23.01.2012 11:58
Well, it's just a very simple one. Used the second triode of V0, I think (!) I ended up with 220k at anode, 1k5||22uF at cathode and a 1n CC into a 1M pot. That's all, no tone controll. I don't play so much clean, so it's really enough for me. And for recording there is still the Twin 8)
Titel: Re: JMP 50w clone AFD tone #36 mod, for slash fans.
Beitrag von: dukeamps am 23.01.2012 12:39
Well, it's just a very simple one. Used the second triode of V0, I think (!) I ended up with 220k at anode, 1k5||22uF at cathode and a 1n CC into a 1M pot. That's all, no tone controll. I don't play so much clean, so it's really enough for me. And for recording there is still the Twin 8)

Thats going to be my next challenge, #36 channel + good clean channel :) 
Titel: Re: JMP 50w clone AFD tone #36 mod, for slash fans.
Beitrag von: wholelottanoise am 25.01.2012 08:43
Hey Nigel,

I just heard your Nighttrain version without backing track at SoundClick. Can you tell me how your specs differ from those you published at metroamp once (RYU's layout: http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7185/dukeampsspecs.jpg (http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7185/dukeampsspecs.jpg))?

Mine are pretty much the same, except for NFB (47k @ 8Ohm) and presence (old version with 5k pot). I also might have a .68uF at V0's cathode, but I don't remember that exactly. I know I wanted to try the .47uF but can't remember if I really did it ::)

Cheers
Kilian
Titel: Re: JMP 50w clone AFD tone #36 mod, for slash fans.
Beitrag von: dukeamps am 25.01.2012 11:01
Hey Nigel,

I just heard your Nighttrain version without backing track at SoundClick. Can you tell me how your specs differ from those you published at metroamp once (RYU's layout: http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7185/dukeampsspecs.jpg (http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7185/dukeampsspecs.jpg))?

Mine are pretty much the same, except for NFB (47k @ 8Ohm) and presence (old version with 5k pot). I also might have a .68uF at V0's cathode, but I don't remember that exactly. I know I wanted to try the .47uF but can't remember if I really did it ::)

Cheers
Kilian


Hi Kilian, its a different spec, are you happy with your spec or would like to go in this direction?

Nigel
Titel: Re: JMP 50w clone AFD tone #36 mod, for slash fans.
Beitrag von: wholelottanoise am 25.01.2012 12:59
Well, I'm quite happy with mine but I think your's sounds even better ;D

I'm curious if it's just the recording or the amp itself. I would really like to try your specs, when I have time to open my amp again.

Kilian
Titel: Re: JMP 50w clone AFD tone #36 mod, for slash fans.
Beitrag von: dukeamps am 25.01.2012 13:42
Well, I'm quite happy with mine but I think your's sounds even better ;D

I'm curious if it's just the recording or the amp itself. I would really like to try your specs, when I have time to open my amp again.

Kilian

If you are happy i wouldn't change it.

Nigel 
Titel: Re: JMP 50w clone AFD tone #36 mod, for slash fans.
Beitrag von: dukeamps am 25.01.2012 21:18
Hi Guys, here is a clip of the new spec through a v30 speaker, i have never used this speaker before, but i thought i would give it a go for the v30 boys lol

http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=11391889

Cheers

Nigel
Titel: Re: JMP 50w clone AFD tone #36 mod, for slash fans.
Beitrag von: dukeamps am 29.01.2012 00:27
Here is a clip of a V30 + G12H Anniversary speaker combo for anyone who is interested :)

http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=11396809

Nigel
Titel: Re: JMP 50w clone AFD tone #36 mod, for slash fans.
Beitrag von: dukeamps am 31.01.2012 11:14
Here is a clip with the right speakers, Classic lead 80s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwR5f1eX5vg

Cheers

Nigel
Titel: Re: JMP 50w clone AFD tone #36 mod, for slash fans.
Beitrag von: dukeamps am 7.02.2012 21:53
New clip for you :)


http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=11423374


cheers

Nigel
Titel: Re: JMP 50w clone AFD tone #36 mod, for slash fans.
Beitrag von: dukeamps am 8.02.2012 23:13
Here is a clip from my Jmp100w amp.

http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=11425691

Titel: Re: JMP 50w clone AFD tone #36 mod, for slash fans.
Beitrag von: wholelottanoise am 9.02.2012 07:59
Well, hard to find anything that doesn't fit with this. I know, it's been said too many times in the AFD case but, finally, you nailed it! :headphone:
Titel: Re: JMP 50w clone AFD tone #36 mod, for slash fans.
Beitrag von: dukeamps am 9.02.2012 08:48
Well, hard to find anything that doesn't fit with this. I know, it's been said too many times in the AFD case but, finally, you nailed it! :headphone:

Cheers Kilian, thanks for you great feedback :) seems that only you & me are interested in the #36 tone here in Germany.

Thanks

Nigel
Titel: Re: JMP 50w clone AFD tone #36 mod, for slash fans.
Beitrag von: wholelottanoise am 9.02.2012 12:37
Maybe ;D

If there is any type of sound I would like to copy it is the AFD sound. For me, it's perfect RnR. Well, of course it needs more than just the amp, but it's a good start. Now I need a top hat and my rock star carreer can start. Just kidding. In fact, I should quit modding and concentrate on practicing ::)
Titel: Re: JMP 50w clone AFD tone #36 mod, for slash fans.
Beitrag von: dukeamps am 9.02.2012 15:37
Maybe ;D

If there is any type of sound I would like to copy it is the AFD sound. For me, it's perfect RnR. Well, of course it needs more than just the amp, but it's a good start. Now I need a top hat and my rock star carreer can start. Just kidding. In fact, I should quit modding and concentrate on practicing ::)

You said that right, the #36 is one great rock tone :)

Nigel
Titel: Re: JMP 50w clone AFD tone #36 mod, for slash fans.
Beitrag von: guitarthunder am 9.02.2012 16:59
Cheers Kilian, thanks for you great feedback :) seems that only you & me are interested in the #36 tone here in Germany.

Thanks

Nigel
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Hi Nigel

Ich mag den #36 tone unheimlich gern.Ich hab die AfD sogar noch als LP.Das waren so große schwarze Scheiben mit Rillen in grauer Vorzeit.Der Sound von Slash und der von Eddie van Halen sind meine absoluten
Lieblingssounds.Wahrscheinlich die besten die jemals aus einem Marshall ertönt sind.Das wäre eine Kombination die mich vom Hocker hauen würde.Am besten in einem 18Watter :P :P :P :P.Mein Englisch ist leider so mies,das ich nur nach dem Genuß etlicher Biere konversatonstauglich bin.Aber da ist dann die PC-Tastatur mein Feind :devil: :devil: :devil:Du baust echt geile Sachen.Weiter so.
Bekommt man diesen Sound auch aus einem 2210? So einen hab ich nämlich noch rumstehen.
Gruß Michael
Titel: Re: JMP 50w clone AFD tone #36 mod, for slash fans.
Beitrag von: dukeamps am 9.02.2012 22:55
Cheers Kilian, thanks for you great feedback :) seems that only you & me are interested in the #36 tone here in Germany.

Thanks

Nigel
[/quote
Hi Nigel

Ich mag den #36 tone unheimlich gern.Ich hab die AfD sogar noch als LP.Das waren so große schwarze Scheiben mit Rillen in grauer Vorzeit.Der Sound von Slash und der von Eddie van Halen sind meine absoluten
Lieblingssounds.Wahrscheinlich die besten die jemals aus einem Marshall ertönt sind.Das wäre eine Kombination die mich vom Hocker hauen würde.Am besten in einem 18Watter :P :P :P :P.Mein Englisch ist leider so mies,das ich nur nach dem Genuß etlicher Biere konversatonstauglich bin.Aber da ist dann die PC-Tastatur mein Feind :devil: :devil: :devil:Du baust echt geile Sachen.Weiter so.
Bekommt man diesen Sound auch aus einem 2210? So einen hab ich nämlich noch rumstehen.
Gruß Michael

Hi Michael, thats great, yes the #36 for me is one of the best tones ever, just like EVH tone, there is no better tones, i'm sure any 50w or 100w amp can be modded to the #36 tone.

Cheers :)

Nigel 
Titel: Re: JMP 50w clone AFD tone #36 mod, for slash fans.
Beitrag von: dukeamps am 10.02.2012 11:59
Hi Guys, here is my final take on the #36 mod. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVcbnlr4WaI&feature=youtu.be

Cheers

Nigel
Titel: Re: JMP 50w clone AFD tone #36 mod, for slash fans.
Beitrag von: dukeamps am 11.02.2012 18:55
Here is a clip showing the #36 mod doing a bit of the blues :)

http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=11431795

Nigel
Titel: Re: JMP 50w clone AFD tone #36 mod, for slash fans.
Beitrag von: Caisa am 11.02.2012 19:19
Hi Nigel,

awesome sound, reminds me of good old Gary Moore!

Do you have any schematics that reflect exactly your mods?

What kind of speaker and cabinet did you use for the blues licks?

Thanks
Stephan
Titel: Re: JMP 50w clone AFD tone #36 mod, for slash fans.
Beitrag von: dukeamps am 11.02.2012 23:26
Hi Nigel,

awesome sound, reminds me of good old Gary Moore!

Do you have any schematics that reflect exactly your mods?

What kind of speaker and cabinet did you use for the blues licks?

Thanks
Stephan

Cheers Stephan, thanks for your kind words :) my speaker box is a 4x12 with 2 scumbacks m75 65w & 2 celestion cl80s, i only had a mic on the cl80 speaker.

No sorry i haven't made a scheme

Nigel